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Post by dootdoot on Apr 10, 2023 21:15:05 GMT
"I'm unsure how much it matters, but if I think about the logs for our times..." Mikoto looks down at their podium and thinks for a moment. "Ige's last time there was at 14:51. This seems to align well with how long it was taking each of us to make a full lap, in a group or otherwise, which seems to be approximately 17 minutes. But occasionally we'd push it closer to 19... Or someone would be a little quicker and make a lap in 16." Mikoto shakes their head. "Except, someone's managed to make a whole lap around the course pretty quickly. I'm not sure if it has any significance, but Faye made an entire loop in just 12 minutes. It's not impossible, but wouldn't you have to skip a few challenges for that? did you get a lot of money, or something...?" Mikoto turns over to Faye, expecting an answer. "... No. The opposite, actually, I lost..." Faye looked away and blushed. "I did that stupid prisoner's dilemma game with Caitlin and she betrayed me and I... Got really mad, so I ran around the board trying to find her. I didn't stop to do anything, so that's probably why."
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Post by mec on Apr 10, 2023 22:24:06 GMT
"She would've been fine if the card had worked... The hacking kit could've disabled the card maybe? But that would've been done days ago and no one knew about the race or anything like it before hand. And where was the card even hiding before Yugi had it? The community chest? Hmm..."
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Post by JaytheBluPirate on Apr 10, 2023 23:27:17 GMT
"She would've been fine if the card had worked... The hacking kit could've disabled the card maybe? But that would've been done days ago and no one knew about the race or anything like it before hand. And where was the card even hiding before Yugi had it? The community chest? Hmm..." "I reckon that's what the Lousy Rooms' community chest used to contain... But why would Xhuli finds the chest before we did and then conceal what was inside the chest?" Calvin asked the others as he ponders over the question.
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Post by mec on Apr 10, 2023 23:52:31 GMT
"She didn't find it first." Hella assumes. "Whoever was using the hacking shit did. If Yugi was the one who found and disabled the card why keep it on hand? Maybe it wasn't in the chest? Maybe it was underneath the bar counter and later put somewhere else?" Hella smiles assure of herself.
"Yes, that's why the equipment was found with the wood of course." Her smiles quickly fades. "And Yugi likely didn't kill Ige, Yugi entered the bar at 15:00 and was soon after trapped. Ige was killed at the earliest by 15:00 and hid in the cabinet. Unless Ige willfully entered the cabinet himself and was remotely killed Yugi couldn't off him since he died instantly."
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Post by JaytheBluPirate on Apr 11, 2023 1:04:22 GMT
"Perhaps the hacker feller saw Xhuli finds the community chest and saw what she took out of the chest..." Calvin made a thinking gesture. "Then chances are that Xhuli didn't let it out of her sight."
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Post by mec on Apr 11, 2023 1:32:19 GMT
"Rather stupid assumption." Hella responds. "The card was almost certainly tampered with before Yugi had it on her person. The odds of someone having just seen the card and just assuming that it had RFID to disable is dubious. Then there's also the wood from the counter with the hacking shit. The card being left as some hidden reward in an area that people frequent, but don't examine to closely makes more sense."
"As for Ige's death.... It is possible that he was killed after Yugi. If he was knocked out with the wound on the back of his head and later poisoned by creating a poison cloud with Cwmwl." Hella shakes her head. "Nope. Residue would've been found in the workshop, possible rendering those who arrived on scene first sick or dead."
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Post by Kachu on Apr 11, 2023 2:29:54 GMT
"... No. The opposite, actually, I lost..." Faye looked away and blushed. "I did that stupid prisoner's dilemma game with Caitlin and she betrayed me and I... Got really mad, so I ran around the board trying to find her. I didn't stop to do anything, so that's probably why." "Well! I'm quite relieved that you managed to come out of that situation without becoming bankrupt." Mikoto nods. "Did you manage to find Caitlin, actually?"
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Post by dootdoot on Apr 11, 2023 2:37:17 GMT
"Well! I'm quite relieved that you managed to come out of that situation without becoming bankrupt." Mikoto nods. "Did you manage to find Caitlin, actually?" "Yeah. I threatened her with a hammer in the workshop and Felix had to break us up." Faye answered, helpfully.
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Post by Akkordian on Apr 11, 2023 2:41:07 GMT
"I'm glad Felix intervened before either of you got r-really hurt... And I'm really glad that you didn't run out of time, Faye."
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Post by satan on Apr 11, 2023 2:57:42 GMT
"Rather stupid assumption." Hella responds. "The card was almost certainly tampered with before Yugi had it on her person. The odds of someone having just seen the card and just assuming that it had RFID to disable is dubious. Then there's also the wood from the counter with the hacking shit. The card being left as some hidden reward in an area that people frequent, but don't examine to closely makes more sense." "As for Ige's death.... It is possible that he was killed after Yugi. If he was knocked out with the wound on the back of his head and later poisoned by creating a poison cloud with Cwmwl." Hella shakes her head. "Nope. Residue would've been found in the workshop, possible rendering those who arrived on scene first sick or dead." "Golau also confirmed that Mr. Tsutomu was killed by Tywyll, and on top of that, before now, we didn't have access to Cwmwl." Hawk crossed his arms, his expression slowly brightening. "After all, Cwmwl is a tier 4 spell, and we only had access to tier 3 spells."
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Post by wintercoat on Apr 11, 2023 3:00:15 GMT
“Sorrysorrysorrysorrysorry…” Caitlin mumbled over and over.
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Post by dootdoot on Apr 11, 2023 3:07:36 GMT
“Sorrysorrysorrysorrysorry…” Caitlin mumbled over and over. "... Look, I'm sorry, just..." Faye sighed. "Let's just move on. Don't do that again. I... Don't like it when people lie to me."
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Post by mec on Apr 11, 2023 3:16:46 GMT
Hella sighs. "I had figured it obvious that assumption included Tywyll being the poison in the cloud, but I guess not. Also remember that sin increases every time a person is killed, not when the body is discovered."
"Assuming that our killer is an individual and not a group we can limit suspects to Caitlin and Nico. Maybe scratch Caitlin, don't know how hot on her tail Felix and Faye would've been after their tussle. Maybe Felix or Faye, but if I'm right they would've been together when Yugi got imprisoned." She shakes her head.
"The big issue is how the poison entered Ige's body. He probably was knocked out first when he fell or got slammed into the workbench, no. He could've fallen against it after dying."
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Post by satan on Apr 11, 2023 3:43:14 GMT
"A minor scratch would be all that is required for Tywyll, no? I would certainly call the injury on the back of Mr. Tsutomu's head minor enough to be the poison's entry point.
"And since the poison created by Tywyll doesn't last too long, I doubt that one could make the cloud and then dissipate it within the required timeframe. Though, again, as you noted, there would be residue elsewhere if someone had made it rain, as it were."
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Post by mec on Apr 11, 2023 4:02:16 GMT
"You're kidding me right? There's no way the poison entered through Ige's wound." Hella seems insulted by Hawk's idea.
"Honestly the only other way I could Ige being poisoned would be by a snake he grabbed from the bar or something, but God can that be it? The poison lasts for 5 minutes, so couldn't have grabbed it from the bar. He'd have died somewhere other than the workshop and someone would've had to carry his body there."
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Post by satan on Apr 11, 2023 4:42:52 GMT
"Hm." Hawk closed his eyes in thought, brow furrowing. Then his eyes opened again, and he looked at Monokuma.
"I would like to examine Mr. Tsutomu's mouth, if you would not mind. The only other plausible method of ingestion I can currently think of would be forced ingestion, though the number of us who could overpower a struggling opponent are frighteningly few."
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Post by Panda on Apr 11, 2023 8:32:31 GMT
"The big issue is how the poison entered Ige's body. He probably was knocked out first when he fell or got slammed into the workbench, no. He could've fallen against it after dying." The wound had been quite light. It's unlikely the impact that caused it was enough to knock Ige out. Him falling into the bench seems much more reasonable, from what the players had seen. "Hm." Hawk closed his eyes in thought, brow furrowing. Then his eyes opened again, and he looked at Monokuma. "I would like to examine Mr. Tsutomu's mouth, if you would not mind. The only other plausible method of ingestion I can currently think of would be forced ingestion, though the number of us who could overpower a struggling opponent are frighteningly few." Ingestion did seem like the most likely method, given the lack of sufficient wounds on Ige's body. However, there had been nothing unusual about his mouth during the investigation, and Golau had already confirmed Ige had last eaten a few hours prior. If Ige had ingested the poison, it was probably on its own.
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Post by Kachu on Apr 11, 2023 14:30:29 GMT
Mikoto holds their sleeved hands to their head and clutches it, thinking intensely.
"Monokuma? If two people killed two different victims, and they both got away with it, would they both leave...?"
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Post by Panda on Apr 11, 2023 14:33:30 GMT
Monokuma shrugged. "Sure, why not? What, you think I'd have some complex rule where only the first killer counts, or something?"
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Post by mec on Apr 11, 2023 14:51:35 GMT
Hella groans. "Maybe it's best to establish a timeline first."
"Here goes. 14:51, Ige passes the bar for the last time. 15:00 Yugi passes the bar for the last time."
"That is all I definitely have down so the rest is speculation. Between 15:00 and 15:06 Ige was killed and his body hidden before Cait and Faye's face off. If any of you saw Ige after this time then speak up. After 15:00 Yugi was imprisoned. Which ever of you found her first please say at what time you found her."
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Post by Kachu on Apr 11, 2023 15:36:13 GMT
Mikoto shook their head. "So, we can't really rule out those in groups, can we..."
Then, Mikoto turned to Hella to answer their question. "I didn't see Ige, no. But I do recall at 15:15... I saw the whole workshop in a mess. I didn't manage to find anything in particular when I looked around for a bit. I think I know why it was messy now, though..."
"Sorry I'm not much help after that..."
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Post by Panda on Apr 11, 2023 15:41:45 GMT
From various accounts, people started gathering in the Jail around 15:15.
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Post by Collin1002 on Apr 11, 2023 18:56:22 GMT
Felix, who had been looking very pale and clammy ever since Xhuli's grisly death, finally spoke up.
"T-The way I see it, I think the killer knocked Ige out by slamming his head into the workbench, and once he was unconscious, killed him by casting the spell to conjure the poison and just... shoved their finger into his mouth, or something like that. I-I think it would have to have been after I broke Caitlin and Faye up, so if that's the case, it eliminates six minutes from the potential time of death. Not much, but... it's something, I-I think."
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Post by mec on Apr 11, 2023 19:11:36 GMT
"Are you really so sure it was after you broke them up? Honestly I swear if you weren't in a group with Faye when Yugi got imprisoned you'd be a prime suspect." Hella folds her arms and shrugs.
"To explain, I arrived on at the workshop not long after you left it and stayed until 15:12 with Korrigan. Ige would've needed to have been confident enough that he had enough time left to avoid going through a full loop for over half an hour. While possible I find it doubtful that he'd have been dragging his ass for so long. I can't imagine he or any of us had that much free time."
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Post by satan on Apr 11, 2023 20:11:49 GMT
Hawk folded his own arms, thinking. "Without any other wounds that stand out, forcible ingestion seems to be our only choice. But that would then imply that Xhuli did it, since she is, by and large, the only one most likely to be capable of overpowering any target."
He paused, then, frowning deeply.
"... That reminds me. We never did solve the trap that Mr. Tsutomu triggered. Was that not also found in the bar?"
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Post by mec on Apr 11, 2023 20:17:35 GMT
"Alright, so you're saying that Ige was shoved into the cabinet while still alive then?"
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Post by Neotelenta on Apr 11, 2023 21:19:31 GMT
"Did we find any signs of struggle on the inside of the cabinet? That will determine if Ige was knocked out or not before he was put in the cabinet."
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Post by Panda on Apr 11, 2023 21:31:22 GMT
There had been no signs of a struggle inside the cabinet. It was one of the few places spared from Faye and Caitlin's wrath, as the outside had taken all the damage instead.
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Post by satan on Apr 11, 2023 21:46:19 GMT
"Alright, so you're saying that Ige was shoved into the cabinet while still alive then?" "Not quite. I'm saying that Mr. Tsutomu and his killer struggled with each other, and after his demise, he was put into the cabinet. After all, it is far easier to move a dead body than a living one."
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Post by mec on Apr 11, 2023 22:03:25 GMT
"In that case could it really have been Yugi? Ige would've had to have died and been stuffed into the cabinet in less than a minute and Yugi would've had to get to the bar to clock in."
"We should also check how much time Ige had left when he made his final deposit too. So we can tell when you couldn't have been alive."
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